Leadership Journal interview with Dave Gibbons

October 1, 2008

Leadership Journal published this article titled On the Verge, an interview with David Gibbons (by Andy Crouch and Marshall Shelley; Summer 2008).


The interview chronicles Dave’s life journey from his upbringing to his segregated college experience, various church experiences, and how his understanding of the Gospel has grown and developed over the years. In 1994, he launched NewSong Church, a multi-ethnic megachurch, now with multi-site locations in Los Angeles, North Orange County, Dallas, Mexico City, London, India, and Bangkok. And now his Gospel understanding is leading him to build smaller churches he calls “verges.” This is an excerpt:

… I realized that if the leading Korean church is having trouble retaining their second generation, this must be going on all across America. So I joined the staff of a Korean church in Dallas. I fell in love with the people, but also experienced the heartaches of second-generation issues—the so-called “silent exodus.” All these experiences caused me to examine my life and who I was, my biracial background, my heart for the globe and not just one culture.

… [in Bangkok, Thailand] I visited other churches and discovered that the Evangelical Covenant denomination there had 4,000 people in roughly 400 churches. It hit me. Back home NewSong had about 4,000 in four congregations.

I saw four churches with 4,000 people versus 400 churches with the same number of people, and the question I felt God posing to me is, Who’s stronger?

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